David
Pronunciation of Pinyin R So, I'm a Mandarin noob, and one of the things I'm working on is pronunciation. I'm learning, so far, online, and one of the main questions that has come up concerns the pronunciation of the R in pinyin. So far, I think I've settled on pronouncing it the way it was described here http://www.sinosplice.com/learn-chinese/pronunciation-of-mandarin-chinese/5 But the trouble is, listening to various resources on YouTube like songs, I've heard it pronounced differently. Sometimes "like the second half of leisure", sometimes more of an English approximant r-sound, but with the tongue higher, and sometimes even more of a /j/ (as in the pinyin y) sound, but again with the tongue raised more. Is there variation in the way native speakers say it, so that as long as it's still somewhat retroflex; can it be any of those? Which pronunciation should I try for? I'm trying to learn standard Mandarin right now, although if I were to travel to speak it sometime in my life it would be to Taiwan I think.
30. Juni 2017 20:46
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With the improvement of basic education and the increase of people's mobility, Mandarin has been spoken by more and more people in mainland China. Taiwan Chinese speak good Mandarin as well, in general. I'd like to mention it that, in mainland China, affected by the phonology of their own Chinese dialects, people often do not speak madarin that well, though it does not usually makes trouble in understanding. Most people do not speak madarin as well as radio-broadcasters; and some even have trouble pronouncing some madarin sounds such as (in pinyin) r, zh, ch, sh, so as to replace them with similar sounds of their own dialects. For instance, [z](API, for s in rose, z in zero)/l for r, z for zh, c for ch, s for sh. If you pronounce "ss"( for sh in shift) and "r" (r in red) very well --and I bet you do, then it's easy for you to do r in mandarin. You may shift the position of your tongue tip in some way or change the shape of your tongue ( especially the tongue edges, for example) and compare the sound that you make to the standard one. Keep doing this until you make your own perfect r. For pronouncing r in mandarin, shift your tongue tip form where you make 's' or "ss" or 'r' to the lumpy part of the hard palate and point the tongue tip to it without touching, make a voiced consonant (or rather a semi-vowel) and you'll get the sound r in mandarin. Adjust the position and shape of your tougue, and you'll heard a series of simillar and differnt sounds. Keep making the sounds, compare with the standard one until you make the perfect. Note that: ------ Your tongue tip is very near to the uneven part of the palate, but not so near that you can hear the puff sound, that is, r is not a fricative ------ The r in mandarin is a semi-vowel, and so its duration is very short and it always comes before a vowel; thus you do not extend it to a distinct length. (Actually you cannot lengthen it to such an extent as long as you've properly pronounced it). I hope this ...
2. Juli 2017
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“R” is rather hard to pronounce since there's no such an equivalent in English I think. The "re" in the word "region" is close and it would be even closer if you can remove the "e" part. I found you a video so you can try to practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDQbfDIG1mg
1. Juli 2017
In my opinion, the pronunciation Pinyin " r " is close to the pronunciation of the front part of the English word "rose". when you pronounce the English word "rose", think about the way that you pronounce “ r ” in English, then try to pronounce pinyin r again. You will see~
2. Juli 2017
I think Shifei Chen's video was good. Just pronounce it the R sound in "RED"
2. Juli 2017
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