Dan Smith
Why do learners use the abbreviation "sth" to mean "something?"

I'm a U.S. native speaker and I have never, ever seen this abbreviation. It doesn't seem to be a standard abbreviation. It's not in my desk dictionary (American Heritage), and the Oxford online shows it only as an abbreviation for "South:"

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sth

I'm sure they are doing it because they've seen it done in some authoritative place. I'm just curious as to where it comes from.

Is this a British abbreviation that I've never seen or noticed? 

(I personally find it a jarring, unnatural, and hard to understand because I can't stop myself from mentally hearing it in my mind as "sith.")

8 de jan de 2017 11:26
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The Cambridge dictionary(online) uses such a form.
8 de janeiro de 2017
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I'm not saying it's faulty or wrong. I really meant what I said--where does it come from?

English, as taught in non-English-speaking countries to non-English-speakers, actually seems to be a somewhat different subject, with its own terminology, than in English-speaking countries. (That's reasonable, because to us, "English" is just a refinement of things we already know). For example, I'd never heard the phrase "phrasal verb" before I started using italki. Thinking I might just be out-of-date, I've asked fellow U.S.-native-speakers "have you ever heard of a 'phrasal verb?' Do they teach that in school nowadays?" and nobody has heard the term. Finally I had a chance to ask a high-school English teacher, and she said "phrasal verb? I've never heard that term, what does it mean?"

8 de janeiro de 2017
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BTW, what about "smth"? Is this better or worse than "sth"? Google only offers me Urban doctionary and Russian sites for this, but it must be less confusing.
Similarly  "smb" vs. "sb"?

8 de janeiro de 2017
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I can only confirm that "sth" was used by my English teachers, and thus also by us students, when we learned English in high school. In French we used qc for "quelque chose", which also means "something". I don't see it as an 'official' abbreviation; we only ever used it in vocabulary lists to remember connections such as "hand sth to so" (so being someone). We would never have used it in a test. Perhaps someone will know more about where it comes from, but I never saw it as a problem. It's simply an abbreviation for a very frequently used word where spelling it out wasn't necessary.

8 de janeiro de 2017
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K P asked Oh, when I asked if "smth" is better or worse than "sth" I didn't mean to offend anybody. :-E)
May I assume that downvotes mean 'worse'?" 

I can't imagine why anyone downvoted your posting, so I just upvoted it. However, I don't think "smth" is an improvement on "sth," and to me "smb" means "server message block!"

None of these abbreviations is the least bit offensive. No native speaker is going to have any trouble guessing their meaning. I'm not going to express any opinion on whether anybody should or shouldn't use them. 

(However, Ryo wrote "sht" when she doubtless meant to write "sth" and she might want to correct that. :)  )
8 de janeiro de 2017
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