Ilya
Why is Fruit uncountable (in this meaning) but vegetable is countable. I know that fruit can be countable and uncountable. Fruit is countable when we talk about different kinds. But why is it 'Do you like to eat vegetables?' but 'Do you like to eat fruit?' It’s clear that milk, rice, coffee, tea are uncountable nouns because you can’t count them without something(bit, cup, bowl etc.) But you can count fruit! So why is it uncountable? And what to use ARE or IS? Why There’re 5 fruit on the table, not There’re 5 fruits on the table? I can count them. There’re 5 ones. It’s really hard to understand because in my native language fruit is only countable (like vegetables). Please, send me a history of this word to understand why it’s uncountable and explain me.
2 Ağu 2021 20:12
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Hi Ilya. My name is Nico. I am a Professional English Teacher and a Lawyer. To answer your question, we would have to go to the origin of these words (i.e, how these words were derived). Your question, is definitely relevant and it is something many people studying English has wondered before. Even scholars, have wondered about this question previously. Whilst at present there is no exact answer, researchers have often suggested that the word "fruit" was already uncountable in Middle English, where it appeared from the Latin word "fructus", meaning product, result, effect (also related to "frux - fruges", meaning crop, harvest). Whilst many scholars of English, do not have exact answers, it has often been accepted that the word originally was understood to mean "product" in a collective sense, so "fruit" was not the singular fruit as we know today, but rather what had been grown or produced, hence it is uncountable. It is often further been addressed in English literature that the word "fruits" later came to be associated with the figurative sense of the word, as in "The fruits of your labor" and thereafter transferred to the plural. "Vegetable" in the sense of "plant cultivated for food" is more recent. This was first recorded in the late 1700s. Sometimes grammar is more related to habit and use than pure logic. For instance, "news" used to be countable, but now is always uncountable. Why? Because people started to use it that way and it stuck. I hope this addresses your query. If you would like to discuss countable and uncountable further, please do not hesitate to contract me.
2 Ağustos 2021
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Hi Ilya, I'm native english and I would always say There are 5 pieces of fruit on the table. Or There is (there's) some fruit in the kitchen. Hope this helps.
3 Ağustos 2021
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Ilya, it is easy to start wondering why some things are countable and why not. Very often, there are traditions that lie hidden, but many other times there is simply neither rhyme nor reason. The fact is, nobody knows. But if you think of the fruit of one tree as a whole, that might help. But vegetables: you tend to think of a variety when you thinking that word. When you think of a variety when it comes to different types of fruits, then you can have an 's' there as well. That might help you remember.
3 Ağustos 2021
Like other people said, it's hard to say why. Some things in languages are not perfectly logical, probably because they were created by people and are a kind of living things that can change, and people are not perfectly logical.
2 Ağustos 2021
Hi Ilya, to answer that question you need an etymology expert. However the word comes from Old French 'fruit', from Latin 'fructus': 'harvest'. If you want to use it as a singular you might say: A PIECE OF FRUIT (= one apple, banana, etc.)
2 Ağustos 2021
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