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는데/은데/ㄴ데 what do they mean ?
I am pretty sure I asked this before but what do they mean and how do I use them because I don't understand
I have already looked on TTMIK but I still don't get it
Can I have some examples of situations where you might use them and why you use them?
Thank you
24 lug 2012 15:40
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-는데 is used for linking or ending 있다, 없다, 계시다 etc in the sentence by following '-으시-’, ‘-었-’, ‘-겠-'.
1.Used for connecting the previous clause to explain, ask, suggest, with related clause in situation.
보고있다(verb)+-는데=보고 있는데
내가 텔레비전을 보고 있는데 전화벨이 울렸다.
(While I was watching TV, the phone rang.)
2. Used for ending a sentence to describe something with an exclamation
달리고 있다(verb)+-는데=달리는데
잘 달리는데.
(Wow) (the someone) runs very fast.
올랐다(verb)+-는데=올랐는데
성적이 많이 올랐는데?
(Wow) Your've got good grades (comparing to ones before)
-은데 is similar as -는데. The difference between -는데 and -은데 is -는데 is used for linking a verb in a first sentence with a second sentence to make one sentence, whereas -은데 is used for linking an adjective.
1.많다(adjective, many)+-은데=많은데
볼 것은 많은데 시간이 모자란다.
(We) don't have much time, whereas we have a lot to see.
Although (we) have a lot to see, there is no enough time.
2 좋다(adjective,good)+-은데=좋은데
기분 좋은데. (I feel good/ I feel nice, or it can be 'I feel better than before', depending on context or situation)
작다(adjective,small)+-은데=작은데
집이 좀 작은데?(The house is rather small (comparing to one that I thought)?
If there's perfect one-to-one correspondance between two languages it faciliate to learn them more efficiently. Japanese and Korean shares many those one-to-one correspondance words and structures. However, English doesn't. If I should translate the sentences -은데, -는데 is used in sentences into English, perhaps I have to translated the linking part in some sentences by using connetives, depending on contexts. Because, virtually, there's no one-to-one correspondance Korean and English in -은데, -는데.
휴...It was really tricky question. I hope it helped you some.
26 luglio 2012
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In colloquial Korean, we use them a lot for some reasons:
1. to sublty express gratitude or apology
If a friend I don't like says "너 돈 좀 있어?", I might say "없어". I'm being blunt here. If my favorite friend says the same, I might say "없는데". It doesn't make a lot of sense if you just translate it as "but I have no money". 없는데 is implying "You want me to lend you some money and so you're asking if I have some extra money, I wish I had some money but I have no money now, I'm sorry".
Another example. If my friend cleaned our house by herself and I get home noticing it, we'll probably have a conversation that goes:
Me: Hey, did you clean our house all by yourself?
Friend: Yeah. It hasn't been cleaner than this, has it?
(I notice it took a lot of cleaning and start feeling sorry)
Me: It's so clean that my eyes are being dazzled. 그럴 필요까진 없었는데. (You didn't need to do it all by yourself. Thanks heaps)
2. to talk in a manner that's expecting a reply/reaction from the listener
Person A : Let's hang out with Joe. Call him.
Person B : ...전화 안 받는데? ...but he's not answering it. (What do/should we do about it?)
3. to mean... "and" (sorry, I don't know how else I could explain it)
Say I accidentally hit my thumb with a hammer and my friend is laughing her ass off. I might say angrily"난 아파죽겠는데 넌 이게 웃기냐? It's so painful that it kills me and is this funny to you?"
Say your friend just made a lame joke about something. It's not a kind comment, but you could say "근데?" meaning "And? (Is that all?)"
는데 with an action verb (먹다 - 먹는데 / 자다 - 자는데 / 공부하다 - 공부하는데)
-은데 with an irregular descriptive verb (작다 - 작은데 / 좁다 - 좁은데)
ㄴ데 with a regular descriptive verb (예쁘다 - 예쁜데 / 아프다 - 아픈데)
Hope that helps!
27 luglio 2012
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So Min
Competenze linguistiche
Cinese (mandarino), Inglese, Francese, Giapponese, Coreano
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Cinese (mandarino), Francese, Giapponese, Coreano
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